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February 2, 2010

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good analysis. for what its worth, their 2007 pick ended up being rudy fernandez (phoenix traded/sold it to portland). no he's not an all-star. yes id love to have him on this team. thanks for ruining my day though about paxson. to make matters worse, he blew numerous other first round picks, such as on the likes of Luke Jackson (who WAS a lottery pick). andris biedris, josh smith, al jefferson, jameer nelson, kevin martin all could have been had. in particular, Al Jefferson!

Good to have you back Amar. Don't forget about the whole Boozer fiasco. Paxson's hatchet job as the Cav's GM might have netted us Lebron, but it also left the proverbial cupboard bare of any draft picks or tradable assets. Ferry’s ability to bring quality players to this organization along with injecting some youth has been impressive.

I completely disagree with the whole notion that the Cavs should have built the team around LeBron in the same way the Thunder have built around Durant.

If LeBron had lost as many games as Durant has lost (43-121) in the first two years of his career, he would have been crushed by the national media. Destroyed. Durant and LeBron are not in the same stratosphere when it comes to attention and expectations. The Cavs did not have the kind of leeway with LeBron that OKC has with Durant.

In addition, there is no championship team in the last 30 years that was built as a group of four draft picks growing together. This is just as likely to fail for the Thunder as it did for the Chicago Bulls of three seasons ago, or the current Portland Trailblazers, or any number of similar situations. There is just too much that has to go right for a team to succeed in the NBA. You can't afford to throw multiple seasons away as part of a five-year plan. It may work out for the Thunder, but at this point there's no reason to think that it will end up being any more successful than what the Cavs have done in LeBron's six seasons, or what they will do in the next six.

By far one of the best Cavs-related articles I have ever read.

Very unique article regarding 2010.. not something we have heard over and over again.. *cough* New York *cough*. Not going to say I completely agree 100%. I will not be one to blame the Cavs organization. I think LeBron looks fondly upon the dedication to previous years of success. One main reason I believe LBJ will stay is that he understands how much the management has done to bring MULTIPLE winning seasons. He respects winning.

Nice article. But I am interested in seeing what someone close to the Cavs thinks about standing pat this year, just like last year. I was on board with everyone who thought one player needed to be added last February. But the more I watch the Cavs of late, the more I am convinced that they should do nothing this year. The chemistry is fantastic and they really seem to be building toward something. It is palpable. And, if they are able to win it all, which is a very good bet, after signing LeBron, they should do everything they can to re-sign Shaq AND Z. Sign them each to a one year contract and try to keep the good thing going.

It seems like you're just trying to find an angle for your blog post here...and you're struggling and losing.

The Cavs have a few players on their team who have been part of this nucleus for a few seasons now. Lebron has made them better players, like all great players do. Take a pretty standard comparison point for Lebron these days: Michael Jordan. His first championship team's starters included John Paxson, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, and Bill Cartwright. Do you think any of those guys is measurably better than guys like Varajao, Williams, Gibson? I think those guys constitute a similar core that Jordan brought up with him and kept around for his first three-peat.

the lebron era can be divided into pre-dan gilbert/ferry and post-gilbert/ferry. the fact is, paxson had an opportunity to build the team around lbj in a manner similar to how presti is doing around durant. Paxson, however, screwed it up royally by trading away future first round picks in 2005 and 2007, letting Boozer walk for no reason (granted, he DID make up for it in snagging Varejao from Orlando. without boozer leaving, we dont get AV) and missing big time in the 2004 draft lottery by taking Luke Jackson. you can also argue that Paxson missed royally in the andre miller trade. that was an awful trade and theres no reason he HAD to trade miller before the season started that year. he easily could have waited until the next trade deadline to create a bidding war. worst case scenario is Darius Miles would still have been available at the next trade deadline if nothing better surfaced. how did paxson not even get future first round picks in that andre miller trade?

once Ferry/Dan Gilbert came aboard, lebron's rookie contract was almost up and the cavs HAD to go all in. they couldnt wait around "being bad" for a few more years. on top of that, ferry was behind the 8 ball since paxson had traded away those 2005 and 2007 first round picks, did not accumulate any additional first rounders and missed out with the luke jackson pick (ie, we had no viable trade assets). what if paxson takes Al Jefferson that year? then what if the cavs trade Jefferson as the foundation of a KG trade, instead of him going to Boston? think about that one!

actually no, the cavs don't need to make a trade because in essence they already have in the form of leon powe. powe is due to come back sometime soon after the all-star break which would be just about the same time as when the trade deadline is up, so they can just consider him as their "trade acquisition" then. just think that they have now won 9 games in a row with the majority of those games without both their starting & back-up point guards. getting those guys back and adding powe to the mix will only make them that much better. the really nice thing about this whole situation though is that powe will have already been used to playing with his teammates in practice unlike anyone they were to actually trade for and so any potential chemistry issues will be non-existent.

"Michael Jordan. His first championship team's starters included John Paxson, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, and Bill Cartwright. Do you think any of those guys is measurably better than guys like Varajao, Williams, Gibson?"

Scottie Pippen is one of the 50 greatest players of all time. Please don't insult him and his career by putting him on the same stratosphere as Anderson Varejao, Mo Williams, and Daniel Gibson. In fact, in 1993-94, Pippen put together one of the best all-around seasons in league history at age 28 and in the prime of his career: 22.0 ppg, 8.7 rpg, 5.6 apg, 2.9 steals (league leader), and 0.8 blocks while shooting 49.1% from the field.

That's the kind of player Jordan had as a SIDEKICK. He was also one of the best defenders ever. Even if the Cavs had held on to Boozer, he wouldn't have held a candle to Pippen and what he has accomplished in his career.

Just numbers-wise, Boozer and Horace Grant were comparable. They were both similar players in terms of style too. But if you gave LeBron a player of Pippen's stature, we would have already had a parade down Euclid Avenue by now instead of having this discussion.

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